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Diesel Cars Make a Comeback in the U.S.

Scientific American -- Gone are the days of riding in the family station wagon, inhaling smelly, sooty fumes from a noisy diesel engine.

Diesel engines have always been more efficient than their gasoline counterparts, but over the last decade, the autos and the fuel they run on have had to come a long way to shed their dirty image. Today, diesel cars offer Americans another fuel-efficient vehicle option that could also ease the pain at the pump.

"The great thing about diesel is that it's coming in at the right time," said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum. "It's proven itself as a technology, and it has the credentials to compete with policymakers and customers that want to drive a car that's good for the environment and low in carbon dioxide emissions."


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:09:08 AM

of course, with sweet light crude (the basis for ULSD) no longer being as readily available, the US should do what Europe has done for a long time: add cheap plant-derived oils into the mix (Brassica rapa is the main source for European B-20 and other Biodiesel mixes).
honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:07:30 AM

Tiger: although diesel costs more (currently about 45 cents difference at many stations here), it has a higher energy content, which is why you can get a Jetta TDI that gets 58 mpg w/out problems and w/out much of any fancy technology. When you think that you get about 35 - 38 mpg w/ the same car using a gasoline engine, that's a pretty big difference that still adds up fast.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:05:28 AM

wild3: you're right. Isn't it funny how even supposedly well researched articles are still not showing up the facts?
wild3bill
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 8:57:48 AM

They didn't come back because they were never gone.
I started with cars that got 40 to 50 MPG:
1979 I bought a brand new VW Rabbit D in 1978, I bought a second ne used.
1981 Rabbit D pick from E-bay
1985 Golf for $800, used
1986 Suburban 6.2 Diesel 4X4 I bought two of these in the 1990's.These got 18 to 20 MPG, cost around $2000 each used
I replaced them with a 1997 6.5 turbo K2500 pickup 15 MPG
I replaced the Golf with a 2003 Golf TDi
I picked up a 2011 BMW 335d which came with a $900 tax credit and 4 year 50,000 miles of service included!
They were there all the time if you wanted one and looked for them!
kenji554
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 6:28:30 AM

Good. The new diesel cars are great at squeezing more mile out of a gallon. Its like buying concentrated fuel. Pay a little more for it, but you get alot more miles out of it. Figure out the cost per mile. Maintenance cost is comparable to gas from my experience. I see it as a win-win.
TIGERPAW46
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 1:11:19 AM

But diesel is more expensive than Reg. gas. Only way to bring that price down is to restrict exporting the US Diesel.
BWJM
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 1:00:57 AM

ok
danreino
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 1:00:54 AM

Same thing they were doing 3 weeks ago ;-] woo-hoo
speedys
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:54:18 AM

It is all up to what the buyer wants.
danol43
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:53:39 AM

Had a Cadillac diesel in 1982. Loved it.
2bigtanks
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:53:30 AM

Where did they go?
Rooster922
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:50:18 AM

Comeback? when did it left?
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:48:32 AM

rather have them run on bio-diesel or waste veggie oil
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:48:30 AM

Too noisy.
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:45:11 AM

my neighbor has a big dog named Diesel--kids want to ride him.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:43:09 AM

The more diesels maybe less ethanol will be used. More ethanol for export!
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:41:19 AM

How efficient...
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:41:02 AM

Really.. ?
CheeseMan
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:40:30 AM

Around here (North Caroliana) diesel seem to be about thirty cents higher than regular.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:39:40 AM

Let's hope they are better than the 80s models long-run.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:39:24 AM

Diesel fuel prices outweigh much of the efficiency gains at current rates.
69Bonne
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:38:03 AM

Are they really more efficient?
jackson661
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:37:30 AM

Diesel price should be lower.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:35:47 AM

but the additive is expensive
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:31:21 AM

let's go for a clean, viable energy source...
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:29:19 AM

disel might run cleaner because they are not forced to add ethanol. this reduces fuel efficency and fouls engines
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:26:18 AM

not for me
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:25:31 AM

Seeing more and more...
hank1326
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:25:03 AM

Love our TDI. Diesel price should be lower.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:23:51 AM

I have 2 gas 0 diesel. Ford makes a diesel Fiesta, but refuse to bring it to the USA, I'd buy that one.
FlyNFool
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:23:48 AM

Need more.
mgune9
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:22:51 AM

maybe one day -- I doubt that we will see a prive that makes them affordable yet
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:22:45 AM

Slowly makin' in-roads.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:22:24 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:21:01 AM

Convert the trucking industry to NG to lower pressure on diesel fuel and speed up introduction of diesel vehicles.The engines are far more durable and more fuel efficient.
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Few of my friends are investing... Might be the new cool thing to own in a few years
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:16:48 AM

I didn't know they ever faded away.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:15:28 AM

I wonder does that also include bio-diesel?
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:15:02 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:14:59 AM

good
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ok
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:14:38 AM

It's a very efficient power source.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:14:02 AM

Diesel do it!
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:13:25 AM

interesting
pastorpaulcg
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:12:32 AM

Excellent
BobD2009
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:11:58 AM

Not with me they aren't.
regout
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VW Passat Near 750 m. per tank.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:10:46 AM

Sounds good.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:09:50 AM

They sound very differenr today.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:09:20 AM

The latest generation of diesels are OK in my book.
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:07:38 AM

demand goes up... and fuel prices go up...
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